Minutes of the 64th Annual 
		General Meeting of the National Begonia Society held at the Manningford 
		Community Hall, Bells Lane, Birmingham,B14 5TJ held on 
		Saturday 18 May 
		2013 commencing 14-00 hrs 
		1.      
		Compilation of Minutes
		In the absence of the NBS Secretary these minutes were compiled by 
		Robert Bryce an NBS member. The President was not present at the meeting 
		and the chair was taken by the outgoing Chairman Jeff Rhodes.
		
		2.      
		Attendance
		A total of 40 members were in attendance plus some family members. 
		Only memberswere allowed to vote at the AGM.
		
		3.      
		Notice of Convening the Meeting
		The acting Secretary confirmed that the notice for convening the 
		meeting had appeared in the bulletin and on the website.
		
		4.      
		Opening
		The Chairman opened the meeting by asking for a minutes silence for 
		Mary Webb whom had recently died. Mary was a prominent member of the NBS 
		who had served as Treasurer on two occasions. The minutes silence was 
		observed.
		
		5.      
		Apologies for Absence
		Apologies for absence had been received for Colin & Pat Welsh, 
		Maurice Webb, Len Gill and Tony Reynolds
		
		Meeting Agenda and Running Order 2013
		
		1.      
		Minutes of Previous Meeting
		The minutes of the previous meeting were read out, accepted and 
		approved. Proposer Dave Staines accepted by all present.
		
		2.      
		Matters arising from the minutes
		Mr R Bryce asked whether there had been any progress on the Matters 
		Arising items 1 & 3. The chairman stated that there had been no 
		progress.
   Mr D Staines referred to previous committee minutes references a 
		letter to the committee by R.Bryce and the formation of a Finance 
		Sub-Committee. The members discussed its formation and actions and there 
		were heated exchanges from several members relating to the society 
		finances.
   Mr Wally Lloyd asked the meeting for calm as it was becoming 
		chaotic. Order was restored.
		
		3.      
		Secretary’s Report
		The Chairman Mr Jeff Rhodes explained that the Secretary had 
		resigned due to ongoing liaison from members of the committee and other 
		NBS members. He further explained that this liaison had resulted in the 
		resignation of the Vice Chairman and Mrs Staines and that the committee 
		were left in the position where a quorum could not be formed and no 
		society business could be undertaken.
   He read out a letter that he had sent to the remaining committee 
		members at a date prior to the meeting. This explained that he had 
		repeatedly tried to control the warring factions but had failed and that 
		the society had become a very unhappy place and dis-satisfaction was 
		prevalent. He asked that the meeting resolve it differences and form a 
		committee that could work together and restore contentment making 
		culture and friendliness the main considerations moving forward.
		(A 
		complete copy of the address read out by Jeff Rhodes can be obtained 
		from the Secretary on request)
		
		4.      
		Treasurers Report
		The Treasurer Mr George Rushforth addressed the meeting and 
		explained that he had been a member of the society for 53 years 
		attending 45 AGM’s and had been treasurer since 2001.He had taken the 
		job in the absence of any other member being prepared to do it. He 
		further explained that he had extensive experience in keeping accounts 
		as he had also kept them for a local church for many years. He had been 
		praised by several auditors for his excellent work.
   He explained that that this year had been fraught with difficulty 
		due to one member (not named but Robert Bryce) sending repeated e mails 
		(some 60) that were offensive asking for financial details. He explained 
		that he had been harassed and this had made him ill. He stated that his 
		integrity had been questioned and he handed out copies of the e mails 
		that he had received to the meeting. He pointed out that the member (Mr 
		Bryce) had not been a member of the NBS last year.
   Mr R Bryce stated that all the e mails had already been made 
		available to the Area Reps and committee members in a complete 
		documentation of liaison. (The Area Reps were previously asked to make 
		them available to all members. These are available on request from the 
		Area Reps).
   Mr Bryce stated that circa £4k had been spent in the year on 
		committee expenses and judges expenses and stated that the society could 
		not afford this. Mr Rushforth stated that he did not know where Mr Bryce 
		had got the figures and Mr Bryce explained that he had a full copy of 
		the account. The Treasurer advised that he was not aware of this.
   The Treasurer stated that there were currently 312 fully paid up 
		members, 4 life members who did not pay for membership and 4 fully paid 
		up overseas members.
   Mr Wally Lloyd again brought the meeting to order and asked if 
		accounts had been made available at all committee meeting in the last 
		year. The Treasurer showed his folder and stated that this folder was 
		taken to all committee meetings. Mr Lloyd asked if committee members had 
		been allowed access to this and if the committee members had signed of 
		the accounts at each meeting. A heated exchange followed from members of 
		the committee with accusations and counter accusations following. It 
		became obvious that the committee members had not signed of the accounts 
		with some committee members claiming that full accounts were not 
		available. Mr Lloyd stated that he did not blame the Treasurer but found 
		it unbelievable that the committee had not had access to accounts or 
		signed them off.
   The Treasurer stated that due to criticism he had taken it upon 
		himself to have the accounts professionally audited at a cost of £300 
		and displayed the Audit Certificate to the members.
   Mr Robert Bryce stated that the National Show prize monies were 
		only £1220 and that the rest was travel expenses, accommodation and 
		miscellaneous.
   Mr Alan Bryce questioned the interest earned on the society 
		accounts. The Treasurer stated that he had approached several banks and 
		that no better interest rates could be obtained for a society. He 
		explained that £30k was in a bond at 3% and interest was soon due for 
		payment.
    Several members debated this and made claims and counter claims. 
		The new committee when elected were asked to look at this.
   Mrs M Staines pointed out that there were NBS members who had 
		advertisements in the bulletin and had not paid the Treasurer for them 
		this resulted in over £100 not being made. The Treasurer stated that he 
		did not think it was his job to chase people for these monies and that 
		guilty members should have paid him. Mrs Staines asked that this be 
		included in the minutes.
   Miscellaneous monies were explained by the Treasurer and some 
		accusations of these were levelled at Mr Ian Rhys Williams and Dorothy 
		Williams. Both declined to comment.
   The Accounts were passed by the meeting. Mr Bryce pointed out that 
		as the accounts had been audited there was no reason to question them.
   Mr Bryce stood and thanked Mr Rushforth for the accounts and 
		explained that he had a copy of the full accounting model and that they 
		were excellently prepared and accurate. He explained that as a member 
		that he had no problems with the quality of work but was critical of the 
		Treasurers communication skills when dealing with other committee 
		members and the members.
		
		5.      
		Election of Chairman
		Mr Rhodes explained that nominations had been received (Proposed and 
		Seconded) for Colin Welsh, John Winfield, Ian Rhys Williams and Gary 
		Dando.  Colin Welsh was not in attendance at the meeting and Gary Dando 
		and John Winfield withdrew their nominations.
   Mr D Staines questioned whether Mr Williams and Mr Derek Bonner 
		were eligible for election under the terms of the NBS Constitution as 
		they had been in suspension at the time of nomination. He asked that 
		this be minuted. The Chairman and meeting ignored this and asked for the 
		vote after he and Mr Williams left the room.
   The vote (counted Alan Bryce) resulting from the meeting was Colin 
		Welsh 8 votes Ian Rhys Williams 32 votes. Ian Rhys Williams was voted in 
		by the members attending the meeting as NBS Chairman. 
		
		6.      
		Election of Vice-Chairman
		The Chairman explained that nominations had been received after 
		proposal and secondment for Mr Dave Staines and Mr Peter Sourbutts. Both 
		were asked to leave the room whilst voting took place.
   Whilst out of the room a letter was read out by Mrs Dorothy 
		Williams that had been written to her by Mr Staines. As Mr Staines was 
		not in the room this was answered by Mrs M Staines and it was explained 
		that several members had asked Mr Staines to stand for election 
		following the letter. Mrs Staines asked that this be minuted.
   The vote (counted by Alan Bryce) was D Staines 6 votes and Peter 
		Sourbutts 31 votes. Peter Sourbutts was elected as Vice President by the 
		members present.
		
		7.      
		Election of Treasurer
		The Chairman explained that nominations had been received after 
		proposal and secondment for Mr George Rushforth, Mrs Dorothy Williams 
		and Mr Derek Bonner. Mrs D Williams and Mr Rushforth withdrew their 
		nominations and Mr Bonner was elected as Treasurer un-opposed by members 
		at the meeting.
		
		8.      
		Election of Secretary
		The Chairman explained that Mr Alan Harris had resigned prior to the 
		meeting and as he was not up for re-election no nominations had been 
		received. Mr Williams asked that Mr Robert Bryce by elected as interim 
		Secretary Proposed Mr John Winfield and Seconded Mrs D Williams. The 
		Chairman asked Mr R Bryce if he would accept the post. Mr Bryce stated 
		yes.
   Mr Bob Bryce was elected as interim Secretary un-opposed.
		
		9.      
		Election of Committee
		The Chairman explained that Mr Colin & Mrs Pat Welsh and Mr Tony 
		Reynolds still had one year left to serve as committee members. It was 
		also explained that retiring members Mrs D Williams and Mr J Winfield 
		were up for re-election.
		Mr 
		John Winfield was proposed Mr R Bryce and seconded Joy Dando. The 
		meeting elected Mr Winfield to committee.
		Mrs D 
		Williams was proposed by Mr Barry Walker and seconded Mr Ron Aldous. The 
		meeting elected Mrs Dorothy Williams.
		Mr 
		John Chiswell was proposed by Mr J Winfield and seconded Mrs D Williams. 
		The meeting elected Mr John Chiswell.
		(Note 
		that Mr Rushforth questioned whether Mr Chiswell was a paid up member 
		but this was resolved prior to the vote). 
		Mr 
		Gary Dando was proposed by Mr Mike Avis and seconded by Mr  Wally Lloyd. 
		The meeting elected Mr Gary Dando.
		Mr 
		Barry Walker was proposed by Mr Jack Larter and seconded by Mr R Aldous. 
		The meeting elected Mr Barry Walker.
		Mr 
		Mike Avis was proposed by Mr Don Jewely and seconded by Joy Dando. The 
		meeting elected Mr Mike Avis.
		Mr 
		Danny Davies was proposed by Mr Williams and seconded Mr Derek Bonner. 
		The meeting elected Mr Danny Davies.
		This 
		completed the composition of the new committee.  
		
		10.  
		Address from new Chairman
		Mr Jeff Rhodes the outgoing Chairman passed the Chairmanship to Mr 
		Ian Rhys Williams.
   Mr Williams called for all hostility in the society to end and 
		asked for a period of peace with togetherness to follow. He asked that 
		all members support the committee on what will undoubtedly be a 
		difficult 12 months ahead trying to reduce the deficit. He further 
		explained that the promotion of the Begonia and its culture should be 
		the main driver within the society along with friendliness and respect 
		to and from all members.
    Mr Williams called for a vote of thanks for Mr Rhodes and the 
		meeting complied.
		
		11.  
		Life Members
		The new Chairman asked that life membership be awarded to Mr Brian 
		Simmons and Mr John Taylor. The meeting unanimously awarded them both 
		Life Membership.
		
		12.  
		Auditors
		Mr Dave Staines asked that all accounts be audited in future. The 
		meeting discussed this and it was decided that the cost of a 
		professional audit was prohibitive. It was agreed by the meeting that 
		all future accounts after being checked by all members of the committee 
		will then be checked and signed by two qualified independent persons 
		(not members of the society). The members at the meeting passed this 
		unanimously. Mr Rushforth was asked to provide the Auditor certificate 
		that had been obtained.
		
		13.  
		Amendments to the Resolution
		Proposed that rule 3a: Add after committee “by virtue of their 
		Office, carrying full voting rights, and their number to count towards a 
		Quorum “. This was discussed and accepted by the meeting unanimously. 
		Rule 3a will now read:
   The officers of the society shall also be Ex-Officio members of the 
		National Committee and by virtue of their Office will carry full voting 
		rights and their number will count towards a Quorum.
		
		Proposed Rule 3k:  change to read, “Any two members may nominate a 
		member for office or committee. Nominations, in writing; duly Moved and 
		Seconded and carrying the nominee signature of acceptance, must be 
		received by the secretary no later than 28 days before the meeting”. 
		This was accepted by the meeting. Rule 3k will now read:
    Any two members may nominate a member for office or committee. 
		Nominations, in writing; duly Moved and Seconded and carrying the 
		nominee signature of acceptance, must be received by the secretary no 
		later than 28 days before the meeting.
		
		Proposed Rule 7d: Add a new sentence “No motion will be discussed 
		without the mover in attendance at the AGM”. This was discussed at the 
		meeting and it was agreed with a slight addition. Rule 7d will now read:
		
   A member wishing to submit a Motion to the A.G.M. shall submit it 
		in writing, duly Seconded by a member, to the Secretary 28 days before 
		the AGM. No motion will be discussed without the Mover or a nominated 
		representative being in attendance at the A.G.M.
		
		14.  
		Increase in Subscriptions for year beginning 1st 
		January 2014
   The outgoing committee had also been proposed that the 
		subscriptions be increased from £15 to £20 in year starting January 
		2014. This was debated by the members at the meeting with reservations 
		but in the background of severe losses in the last few years and a loss 
		of £6,724.31 this year. It was also stated that the NBS funds had been 
		severely depleted over the last 5 years. Mr Staines also explained that 
		it had been calculated that the subscription to maintain the current 
		situation in the society would have to be £35 pa.
		   
		 It was pointed out that under the constitution if an increase was not 
		made this year it would be the next AGM (2014) before subscription could 
		be increased. A member stated that with subs at £20 this was only 45p 
		each week. The members at the meeting approve a regretful increase to 
		£20 in the year from January 1st 2014.
   The new committee took an action to look at the societies outgoing 
		with a view to making reductions. The new secretary stated that if 
		enough savings could be made monies would be returned to the members by 
		reduced subscriptions in future years.
		
		15.  
		Any Other Business
		The transfer of equipment from the old committee was agreed. All 
		equipment at the meeting was transferred to the new committee. 
		Arrangement for anything else will be transferred will be completed in 
		due course.
   Mr D Staines thanked all members for supporting the societies 
		archive and history.
   Mr Bryce as Secretary asked Mr Staines if he would continue holding 
		the archive and hold the office of Archivist. Mr Staines agreed to 
		continue. Mr Bryce thanked Mr Staines.
   The Secretary asked Mr Rushforth if he would continue as the 
		Central Area Rep. Mr Rushforth agreed to continue. Mr Bryce thanked Mr 
		Rushforth.
   Mr Bryce asked Mr Rhodes if he was prepared to provide his advice 
		and materials to allow the running of the National Show. Mr Rhodes 
		agreed to supply and advice. Mr Bryce thanked Mr Rhodes.
   The Secretary was asked and agreed to write to Mr & Mrs Welsh to 
		ascertain whether they wished to continue as members of the committee.
   The Secretary stated that he would contact Mr Alan Harris.
   Mr Dave Staines asked for a vote of thanks for the outgoing 
		committee and praised their efforts some over a very long period of 
		time. The new committee and members at the meeting agreed and thanked 
		them for all efforts.
		
		MEETING CLOSED AT 16-30 HOURS.
		These minutes are an honest account written by the interim secretary 
		of the meeting as seen in his eyes.  Any errors or inaccuracies are not 
		binding on the Secretary or NBS.
		
		R.Bryce