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MINUTES OF NATIONAL BEGONIA SOCIETY COMMITTEE MEETING
 SATURDAY 18 FEBRUARY 2017 AT MANNINGFORD COMMUNITY HALL, BIRMINGHAM
 PRIOR TO NBS AGM

PERSONS PRESENT:

Mr I Rhys Williams Chairman
Mrs D Williams
Mr D Davies
Mr P Sourbutts Vice Chairman
Mr D Bonner Treasurer
Mr G Dando
Mr S Jones
Mr G Keer
Mr J Chiswell
Mr R Passant
Mr M Avis National Show Manager
Mr C Nicklin
Mr R Bryce Secretary

The meeting was an open meeting with members attending the AGM listening in on all the matters discussed.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE:

Apologies for absence received from John Winfield due to family reasons. All other committee members were in attendance.

TREASURERS REPORT AND FINANCE SHEET

Mr D Bonner provided a balance sheet showing the end of 2016 accounts. Include this year was a sheet showing all individual incoming ans outgoings. This was a reaction to criticism during last year’s AGM. These sheets had been verified by an independent accountant. An end of year Bank Statement was also presented. The Secretary stated that these sheets were now on the website in the Members Only section and had been there since the middle of January. The Secretary had  copies available for members attending the AGM.                                                                                            

The accounts were agreed by the committee as being representative of our finances at 31 December 2016.. The committee thanked Derek Bonner for his efforts over the last 12 months.

Profit for year was £4781.50 as noted on the balance sheet later presented at the AGM.

OUTSTANDING ITEMS FROM PREVIOUS MEETING

No actions outstanding from the last meeting.

AGENDA ITEMS:

1.0   Appointment of President

The Secretary stated that Terry Tasker had been proposed and accepted by committee via email. Terry would be recommended by the committee at the AGM. The members attending the AGM were to be asked to ratify the appointment.

2.0   Appointment of Vice President

The Secretary reported that he proposed and IR Williams had seconded that Derek Owen be appointed a VP. The committee agreed to support this appointment at the AGM. The members attending the AGM were to be asked to ratify the appointment.

3.0   NBS National Show 2017

The Secretary reported that the 2017 show would be held at Shrewsbury Flower Show. The secretary stated that he had spoken to the Shrewsbury Flower Show Secretary and the same judges as last year would be contacted and asked to judge by letter. Mike Avis stated that he had provided the update of our classes to the office and we were now awaiting the schedule.

It was proposed by Derek Bonner that we make a charitable donation this year to the Shropshire Horticultural Society this year as a thanks for all their support. The committee decided that we will donate a sum of £200.

Action D Bonner to provide cheque and the Secretary to send it.

4.0   Annual Raffle


The Secretary explained that this year’s raffle was not as successful as last year with only 35 prizes of at least to 2 tubers being donated by 19 members. The secretary explained that the prizes, winners, etc was now displayed on the website. Mr Bryce stated that he would like more members to take part and spread goodwill. The Secretary stated that the raffle should run again next year and the committee agreed.

 5.0   Review of Prize Cards, Rosettes, Medals and Banners

Ian Rhys Williams advised that the distribution of prize cards, rosettes and medals had been allocated to the Area Reps for the 2017 shows.  The Secretary agreed to take the North East area allocation to Jim Stewart the Area Rep. Ian further explained how many cards, rosettes, medals and banners  we had ordered to meet future requirements. The meeting thanked Ian for his efforts.

6.0   Loss of the East Anglia Area

 The Secretary reported that John Taylor had stepped down as the Area Rep and no member had come forward to run the area. He understood that a group would continue but not as NBS Area. The Secretary stated that a vote of thanks for John would be asked for at the AGM. He further discussed John’s past service to the NBS and all the committee agreed that he had done an excellent job over a long period of time.

 7.0   Loss of the Central and North West Area Reps and retirement of Yorkshire Area  Rep

The Secretary reported that George Rushforth had not accepted his Life Membership proposed at the Feb 2014 meeting. The Secretary stated that he had written to him on 2 seperate occasions and spoken to him once on the phone. Mr Rushforth had not replied to the letters and did not accept the award during the telephone conversation although he had told him he had to accept it. The Secretary tabled the letters to Mr Rushforth. The Secretary stated that the letter sent to Mr Rushforth in June 2016 (copied to all committee members at the time) had not been answered and Mr Rushforth had hence left the NBS at the end of 2016. It was pointed out that as a non member he could not be an Area Rep and also he had not answered the letter in June so he was ineligible. Ron Passant and Steve Jones suggested that Terry Carr was prepared  to become the Area Rep for the Central Area. Terry Carr who was present in the room was asked if he would take it on. Terry accepted and the committee voted to ratify. Terry Carr was appointed Central Area Rep.

 Peter Sourbutts reported that the North West Area had asked the committee to ratify the recommended appointment for Dave Weatherby. The committee ratified his appointment. Dave Weatherby was appointed North West Area Rep.

 The Secretary reported that Jeff Rhodes had advised him that he would stand down as the Yorkshire Area Rep at the end of 2017. Jeff was in the room and explained that this was due to his age and the hard work in running the Annual Show. He stated that if a member came forward to run the show then he would be prepared to carry on with the other work. The committee stated that they hoped members in Yorkshire and Humberside would come up with a solution. Jeff was also hopeful. The committee thanked Jeff for all his work as Area Rep over a long period.

 8.0   Guidelines for Area Reps

The Secretary stated that we had a former non paying member still attending the area meetings in 3 different areas and he was unhappy about this. This member was Dave Staines and at the last East Anglia meeting he stood up criticising the NBS committee whilst urging the group to leave the NBS. Again at the last Central Area meeting he had stood up and again criticised the NBS committee. The Secretary stated that this could not be allowed to continue as it would make other members think that they could also leave the NBS (not paying subscription) and continue to enjoy all its benefits. It was also pointed out that Mr Staines had left the society some 3 years previous and had stated he was never coming back whilst peddling a News Letter and urging other members to leave. The Secretary stated that he was totally fed up with the current situation and all the resulting fall out, he believed that the committee had put up with it long enough. The Secretary proposed that Dave Staines be banned from all NBS organised activities sine die this would include area meetings, NBS organised shows and also being a speaker. This was seconded and the committee voted with 9 votes for the ban, 2 against and 2 abstentions.  Dave Staines now banned sine die from all NBS activities.

 The Secretary reported that there had been a proposal received from Dorothy Williams and seconded by Peter Sourbutts. This was an amendment to the constitution and was as follows:

‘Only fully paid up members can enjoy the full benefits society. This would include attendance at the National and Area meetings, exhibiting at the National and Area shows and being a speaker at any meeting. Any member whose membership has lapsed loses those rights.’

 The only exceptions being:

 A.      Shows where the organisers’ insist that classes be open

B.      Area Shows where a class is included for to encourage non members’ to place exhibits in a ‘Special Class’ (SPC)

C.      Potential new members’ (excluding lapsed members) can attend Area Meetings on 2 occasions before deciding if they wish to join the NBS.’ 

 The committee voted unanimously to accept this proposal and put it forward at the AGM. It was pointed out that the constitution allows wives / partners to become joint members at no additional cost. This is part of the constitution.

The Secretary stated that he would write to all Area Reps and advice them of both of these proposals and the resulting acceptance by committee. It is a duty that Area Reps must ensure that these rules are followed.                                                                                    Action: R Bryce

 9.0  Life memberships or awards

 No new awards proposed

 10.0            Judges for Shows

The Secretary reported that the judging invitations had still to be completed as he was awaiting the return of Dave Coates from holiday before finalising them. The judges for the National were the same as last year and the Shrewsbury Flower Show would send out invitations. It was confirmed that we would support Purbrook Show again this year.

11.0            Membership 2017

 In view of the profits made over the last 3 years it was proposed by Derek Bonner and seconded by R Bryce that the membership fee in 2018 would be £17. This would return monies to the membership. The Secretary urged a little caution as this year around 40 people had not renewed their membership and postal costs were again going up. It was also pointed out that the new handbook would cost at least double the cost of a bulletin. The committee agreed to propose a membership fee of £17 for 2018 at the AGM.

 12.0            NBS Handbook and information supplied to new members

The Secretary reported that the new handbook was 90% complete but that he was awaiting a species article from Sam Kennedy before completing it and sending it to the printers for a quote. It was suggested that a price figure be put on the front so these can be sold at shows. The Secretary explained that he was not sure what the costs would be or what price to put on the front cover. The Secretary stated that when the quote was received that he would contact the full committee and a price could then be agreed.                                                             Action: R Bryce

13.0    AOB

Peter Sourbutts asked if it was better if the committee had a meeting in September as well as the AGM. The committee as a whole stated that they thought one meting per year plus emails was working well and that there was no need for a further meeting

Date of Next Meeting:

The committee agreed that unless any urgent matter came to light the next meeting would be prior to the AGM. The committee asked for this to be on the same weekend next year               .

Action: John Winfield

MEETING CLOSURE FOR AGM AT 12-30 HRS.

Distribution as above plus Mr J Winfield and NBS website.                                                                                                                                 

A presentation followed the AGM meeting with The Secretary showing pictures of exhibits at the National, Southport, Ayr Show and some from his greenhouse. This was well supported.

 Minutes written by Robert Bryce NBS Secretary 21 February 2017

 

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Minutes of the 68th Annual General Meeting of the National Begonia Society
 held at the Manningford Community Hall, Bells Lane, Birmingham, B14 5TJ
 on Saturday 18th February 2017 commencing 13-00 hrs

 1.       Compilation of Minutes

These minutes were compiled by Robert Bryce, NBS Secretary. The former NBS President Jeff Rhodes was present at the meeting and the chair was taken by the NBS Chairman Ian Rhys Williams.

2.       Attendance

A total of 39 members were in attendance plus some family members. Only current paid up members were allowed to vote at the AGM.

Meeting Agenda and Running Order 2017

1.       Notice of Convening Meeting

The Secretary confirmed that the notice for convening the meeting had appeared in the bulletin and on the website.

2.       Apologies for Absence and Bereavements

Apologies for absence had been received from John Winfield, Terry Tasker, Derek Telford, Dave Coates, Brian Simmons and Derek Owen.

The Secretary explained that Margaret the wife of Derek Owen had died recently.

3.       Minutes of Previous Meeting

The minutes of the previous meeting had been displayed on the NBS Members Section of the website for many months. The Secretary reported that no one had come forward with any amendments. They were accepted and approved unanimously at the meeting.

4.       Matters arising from the minutes

There were no matters arising from the previous minutes.

5.       Election of President

The Secretary explained that Jeff Rhodes the President had resigned late in 2016 and stood down. Jeff was thanked for all his outstanding efforts and the Secretary talked about and praised his achievements and loyalty to the NBS. It was reported that the committee of NBS had approached a number of candidates some who had declined the offer. Terry Tasker a long time prominent member and currently Membership Representative had accepted and the committee were putting him forward for ratification. This was unanimously accepted by all members present at the AGM. Terry Tasker was confirmed as the new President.

6.       Election of Chairman

A nomination had been received for Ian Rhys Williams proposed R Bryce and seconded Derek Bonner no other nominations received. This was unanimously approved by all present.

7.       Secretary’s Report

The Secretary Mr Robert Bryce stated that the current NBS committee had worked hard over the last year and had been successful on all objectives. These were the National Show, Bulletin and Website. The Secretary stated that there were concerns that we had a falling membership and that this was in common with all other gardening societies. He explained that having talked to members that he thought that the average age was in excess of over 65 years old. It was reported that the NBS had lost around one third of its members over the last 4 years and there were a number of factors around this but that he thought that age and death were the main factors. A question from the floor asked if this was area related and the Secretary stated that members leaving were distributed around all the area of the membership with no one area being prominent.

The Secretary reported that there were a good number of entries at the shows and the quality of exhibits were improving as membership was falling.

The Secretary had been asked as a result of a conversation with George Rushforth immediately prior to the meeting that he had presented some perceived evidence of his acceptance of a Life Membership. He also stated that he had been asked to talk about what George had done for the society in the past. The Secretary explained that the committee thought that George had not accepted the offer of a Life Membership and that Terry Carr had been appointed Central Area Representative at the committee meeting prior to the AGM. Terry Carr stated he would stand down if George as a member wanted to carry on. (The decision for this will be decided at Committee with all members informed).  It was stated George had also asked that the Secretary talk about his work and achievements as a committee member in the past. The Secretary explained his past service and thanked him for it.

The Secretary thanked all members for their efforts in 2016 and discussed the efforts of the Website Editor, Bulletin Editor and the Show Manager and explained that without their efforts the NBS would struggle to exist. The secretary thanked them.

The Secretary talked about the raffle and its success and stated that he hoped that it would continue. He thanked all the donators and stated that he hoped all members receiving prizes would thank them. He pointed out that again most of the tubers were donated by the same people as in previous years and more members needed to participate if it was to continue.

The Secretary asked members to support both the National and Area Shows and asked for more goodwill and enterprise in 2017.

The Chairman asked that the Secretary’s Report be accepted.  This was unanimously accepted by all members present.

 8.       Treasurers Report

The Treasurer Mr Derek Bonner addressed the meeting and provided balance sheets for 2016 (these had previously been displayed in the Members Only Section on the website). He explained that the society had again made a profit through its prudence.

The Secretary stated that this year a copy of the end of year bank statement was available and an explanation of all cheques paid out were available to members.

The Treasurer stated that the committee at the meeting earlier in the day had agreed to ask their recommendation of a membership of £17 for 2018. This was a decrease from £20 in 2017. This was presented to the members for ratification and was accepted.

The Treasurer stated that the accounts had been audited and signed off by Jeremy Thomas an accountant who was currently very ill. Details of the auditor in future were discussed and it was decided that Mr Bonner would manage this.

The accounts can be viewed by any member on the website.

The Chairman asked that the Treasurer’s Report and Balance Sheet be accepted. The accounts were unanimously accepted.

9.       Resolutions

 One resolution was received prior to meeting and within the required time scales. This had been discussed at the committee meeting prior to the AGM.  The committee through the Chairman put this forward to the members attending.
Only fully paid up members can enjoy the full benefits society. This would include attendance at the National and Area meetings, exhibiting at the National and Area shows and being a speaker at any meeting. Any member whose membership has lapsed loses those rights.
 The only exceptions being:

 A.      Shows where the organisers’ insist that classes be open.
 B.      Area Shows where a class is included for to encourage non members’ to place exhibits in a ‘Special Class’ (SPC)

Potential new members’ (excluding lapsed members) can attend Area Meetings on 2 occasions before deciding if they wish to join the NBS. 

This proposal was accepted with no one against.

10.    Appointment of Vice President

A nomination had been received for an additional Vice President. Nomination from R Bryce seconded I R Williams for Derek Owen. R Bryce discussed Derek’s achievements as a top begonia grower. This appointment was approved unanimously by the members at the meeting.

This appointment will in addition to Mr Nick Langdon of Blackmore and Langdon VP.

11.   Election of Vice-Chairman

The Chairman explained that a nomination had been received for present incumbent Peter Sourbutts proposed by R Bryce and secondment by D Bonner. This appointment was approved unanimously by the members at the meeting. Peter Sourbutts appointed VC.

12.   Election of Treasurer

The Chairman explained that a nomination had been received for present incumbent Derek Bonner proposal by R Bryce and seconded by P Sourbutts. This appointment was approved unanimously by the members at the meeting. Derek Bonner appointed Treasurer.

13.   Election of Secretary

The Chairman explained that nomination had been received for the present interim incumbent Robert Bryce proposed IR Williams and seconded by D Bonner. This appointment was approved unanimously by the members at the meeting. Bob Bryce appointed Secretary.

14.   Election of Committee

All committee members had decided to retire under the constitution with all offering themselves for re-election. There was a question from the floor regarding duration. It was explained that the committee stood as a whole and not separate. In the event of a vote of no confidence the whole committee could be replaced at an AGM. Mrs Marion Sycamore proposed that the whole committee be re-elected and this was seconded by John Chiswell. The members voted to elect the current committee en block.

15.   Life Members

No life members proposed.

16.    Auditors

Mr Derek Bonner Treasurer stated that the accounts had been audited by a retired accountant.  Mr Jeremy Thomas. It was agreed that the accounts would be audited again next year. Mr Bonner to arrange.

17.   Any Other Business

a.       Vote of thanks - A vote of thanks for Mike Avis who had organised the National Show at Shrewsbury for the last 3 year was asked for. The members thanked him unanimously.

b.      Loss of East Anglia Area – The Secretary explained that no NBS member would take up the position and so there could not an NBS Area. The Secretary thanked John Taylor for all efforts as Area Rep and an outstanding committee member over many years. A vote of thanks was asked for, the members thanked him unanimously. The secretary stated that position as Area Rep in East Anglia was open should any member want to take it on.

c.       Proposed Retirement of Yorkshire Area Representative – The secretary reported that Jeff Rhodes had advised him that he hoped to stand down at the end of 2017. Jeff stated that he was now struggling to organise and arrange the Area Show and if the Area was to continue more effort was required. The Secretary asked for a vote of thanks for Jeff for all his efforts over many years as an Area Rep and all the posts he had occupied in committee. The members thanked him unanimously.

d.      New Area Rep for the Central Area Terry Carr had been aproposed and approved at the meeting prior to the AGM. However due to Mr Rushforth claiming that he was a Life Member and the Area Rep this was not discussed. This claim is referred back to the NBS Committee for investigation.

e.      New Area Rep for the North West Area – The secretary reported that Vincent Potts had resigned and had left the society. Dave Weatherby had been proposed by the NW Area Members and the committee had agreed his appointment at the committee meeting prior to the AGM.

 The Chairman prior to closure of the meeting asked if all members were happy and if there were any complaints. There were no concerns raised by any member.

MEETING CLOSED AT 14-15 HOURS.

 These minutes are an honest account written by the secretary of the meeting as seen in his eyes.  Any errors or inaccuracies are not binding on the Secretary or NBS. R.Bryce

 

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